Pass thru RGB Green/Cyan Tinge

Newly installed ZZ9000 from Nov. build…

  • Amiga model: A4000T
  • 680x0 CPU: 68040 (A3640)
  • RAM Configuration: 2M Chip, 16M Fast on mb
  • Kickstart, AmigaOS Versions: 3.2.1 47.102, AOS 3.2.1
  • ZZ9000 Firmware version: 1.12
  • ZZ9000 Driver version: 1.12
  • Monitor model: Dell u2410-f
  • Other Zorro cards: none
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    RGB from db23 left, pass thru from hdmi right. Above Suggests problem with red portion of RGB?

Green/Cyan tinge on anything white, tried different CX cable, other video slot (1st CX moved,then ZZ, then both), disconnected db23, tried different monitors, different hdmi cable, changed MB jumper off of “sync on green”, always same result. RTG video looks great. Changed FW to v1.9 (did not change driver install to match) same result. Verified Z3 1.12 Boot.bin What else to try? Bad CX card? Appreciate any guidance…
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Theuman

Hi, sorry for the trouble. This is usually some loose connection. Can you try (with device turned off!) to firmly press on all four corners of the ZYNQ module so it is fit snugly?

Hi, I have verified the ZYNQ module is firmly seated, no change in results… Anything else to check?
Theuman

Hi there, this will start out a bit odd, but hopefully might make sense in the end.

I had a very similar issue with an A1200 some time in the past, what is relevance to ZZ9000 you ask? It turned out that there was a motherboard issues (broken SMD resistor as it turned out) which had killed the high-bit of the red colour channel, thus there were only 128 “shades of red” that would repeat (i.e. no high-bit, so had red levels from 0-127 and if the high-bit was “set”, it was another 0-127 rather than 128-255).

So, what I’m wondering is if the path to the video slot(s) is damaged and the path to the RGB port is fine? Might be worth checking the red traces with a multimeter for continuity if possible (while the machine is off obviously).

Yes, that seems like a possible cause, I have examined the schematic and there does not appear to be any components between the ared source (DAC) and the video output to the RGB DB23 connector, which is also the case for ared going to POS 7 of the video slots CN451 & CN452. To me this indicates it may be a trace to the slots that is bad?


Or… As MNT asked above, there is a loss of the signal on the ZZ9000 itself, but the seating of the ZYNQ module is solid and does not appear to be the issue… I appreciate the advice.
Thuman


RGB via DB23 connector left, ZZ9000 HDMI right.

ZYNQ module is solidly mounted, it looks like the red signal from the ZZ9000 is missing the hi bit? Values above 127 are going back to 0 thru 127 instead of 128 thru 255, making white show as cyan?


Any ideas what could cause this?
Theuman

Hi,

I’ve made some annotations so you can check (take a close look at pins and beep with multimeter) all the relevant points in the signal path of red bit 7:

  1. Signal comes from the video slot connector here and enters U8 pin 14 for level shifting:

  1. X-ray view of this trace

  1. The signal crosses from U8 pin 10 on the back to the front:

  1. After level shifting, signal arrives here at the ZYNQ connector:

If you “Open Image in New Tab”, you’ll get a higher resolution for zooming in.

Hi Lukas,
I finally had a chance to do a continuity check between Pin21 of J9 SlotIDC_OUT and Pin 14 of U8, this checked good with beep test, and also Pin 10 of U8 to Pin 45 of U12, the top ZYNQ module socket, this also checks good.

Since I was not sure where to check the signal path further on the ZYNQ module, I decided to verify continuity further upstream from the J9 IDC connector, all the way back up to the source of VR7 (RGB23). Everything I checked continuity on shows good, back through the 34 pin ribbon cable to J8 SlotIDC_In Pin21, through the VS2 connector on the CX board Pin 29, and through the VID2 CN452 connector on the 4000T.

I then checked continuity between CN452 Pin 29 back to U457 through the RGB(23:0) bus, RGB23 connected to the R457A 100ohm resistor and also the RP457 1Kohm resistor to gnd. All of this checks good to U457 Pin 2, including the connection back around from R457A to U457 Pin 32. The resistance readings all are within tolerance. I then continued on the upstream side of U457 Pin 47 to the Video DAC U460 Pin 35 (R7 In), and then up the LRGB(23:0) bus to the U450 LISA chip through R450H 68ohm resistor. I believe that since the ARED signal from the Video DAC looks correct coming through the 23pin RGB Output, the R7 bit must at least be making it to the input of the U460 DAC.

Is there a way to verify the logic signal levels coming out of U8 on the ZZ going to the ZYNQ module, or perhaps upstream from there on the 4KT side using a logic probe?

Theuman

U8 pinout: