Hello!
When I run sudo apt update and sudo apt full-upgrade today, I have got a massive list and unsure about few items;
shigeru@mntpr-0:~$ sudo apt full-upgrade
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
acl libkf6notifications6
akonadi-mime-data libkf6runner6
argyll libkf6service-bin
argyll-ref libkf6service-data
bluez-obexd libkf6service6
brasero-common libkf6solid-data
breeze-icon-theme libkf6solid6
cdrdao libkf6statusnotifieritem-data
colord-data libkf6statusnotifieritem6
cpp-14-for-host libkf6wallet-data
devio libkf6wallet6
dracut-install libkf6walletbackend6
eject libkirigami6
gcc-14-for-host libkirigamidelegates6
gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 libkirigamidialogs6
gir1.2-evince-3.0 libkirigamilayouts6
gir1.2-gck-2 libkirigamiprimitives6
gir1.2-gcr-4 libkirigamiprivate6
gir1.2-gdm-1.0 libkleo-data
gir1.2-gnomebg-4.0 libklibc
gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-3.0 libkmailtransport-data
gir1.2-goa-1.0 libkmime-data
gir1.2-grilo-0.3 libkpim6akonadicore6
gir1.2-gtksource-4 libkpim6akonadiprivate6
gir1.2-gudev-1.0 libkpim6akonadiwidgets6
gir1.2-ibus-1.0 libkpim6identitymanagementcore6
gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.1 libkpim6libkleo6
gir1.2-malcontent-0 libkpim6mailtransport6
gir1.2-mediaart-2.0 libkpim6mbox6
gir1.2-mutter-16 libkpim6mime6
gir1.2-nm-1.0 libkpim6mimetreeparsercore6
gir1.2-nma4-1.0 libkpim6mimetreeparserwidgets6
gir1.2-rb-3.0 libmalcontent-ui-1-1
gir1.2-rsvg-2.0 libmbim-utils
gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 libmimetreeparser-data
gir1.2-webkit2-4.1 libmsgraph-1-1
gnome-bluetooth-3-common libmutter-16-0
gnome-control-center-data libnss-myhostname
gnome-online-accounts libparted-fs-resize0t64
gnome-session-common libpciaccess0
gnome-settings-daemon-common libplasmaactivities6
gnome-shell-common libplymouth5
gparted-common libpskc0t64
gvfs-common libqca-qt6-2
gvfs-libs libqca-qt6-plugins
ibus libqgpgmeqt6-15
ibus-data libqmi-utils
ibus-gtk libqt6core5compat6
ibus-gtk3 libqt6keychain1
ibus-gtk4 libqt6quickshapes6
im-config librhythmbox-core10
initramfs-tools-bin libsane-common
kded6 libstoken1t64
kf6-breeze-icon-theme libtomcrypt1
klibc-utils libtommath1
kwallet6 libudisks2-0
libakonadi-data libvolume-key1
libatasmart4 libxmlsec1t64-openssl
libblockdev-crypto3 linux-base
libblockdev-fs3 linux-headers-6.15.4-common
libblockdev-loop3 linux-headers-6.15.6-common
libblockdev-mdraid3 linux-kbuild-6.15.4
libblockdev-nvme3 linux-kbuild-6.15.6
libblockdev-part3 lxsession-data
libblockdev-swap3 mobile-broadband-provider-info
libblockdev-utils3 modem-manager-gui-help
libblockdev3 mtd-utils
libbrasero-media3-1 mutter-common
libburn4t64 mutter-common-bin
libbytesize-common nautilus-data
libbytesize1 paperkey
libccid plasma-activities-bin
libcolord-gtk4-1t64 power-profiles-daemon
libcolorhug2 python-apt-common
libdrm-nouveau2 python3-apt
libdrm-radeon1 python3-asn1crypto
libei1 python3-blinker
libeis1 python3-httplib2
libfprint-2-2 python3-ibus-1.0
libfreerdp-server3-3 python3-jwt
libgdm1 python3-lazr.restfulclient
libgnome-bg-4-2t64 python3-lazr.uri
libgnome-bluetooth-3.0-13 python3-mechanize
libgnome-bluetooth-ui-3.0-13 python3-netifaces
libgnome-rr-4-2t64 python3-oauthlib
libgoa-backend-1.0-2 python3-pyparsing
libgsound0t64 python3-software-properties
libgtksourceview-4-0 python3-wadllib
libgtksourceview-4-common qml6-module-org-kde-kirigami
libgtkspell3-3-0 qml6-module-qtqml
libgusb2 qml6-module-qtqml-models
libieee1284-3t64 qml6-module-qtqml-workerscript
libiniparser4 qml6-module-qtquick
libisofs6t64 qml6-module-qtquick-controls
libjim0.83 qml6-module-qtquick-layouts
libjte2 qml6-module-qtquick-shapes
libkf6auth-data qml6-module-qtquick-templates
libkf6calendarcore6 qml6-module-qtquick-window
libkf6completion-data realmd
libkf6completion6 rhythmbox-data
libkf6crash6 sane-airscan
libkf6dbusaddons-bin switcheroo-control
libkf6dbusaddons-data usb-modeswitch
libkf6dbusaddons6 usb-modeswitch-data
libkf6doctools6 user-session-migration
libkf6itemmodels6 wsdd
libkf6jobwidgets-data xcvt
libkf6jobwidgets6 xdg-user-dirs-gtk
libkf6notifications-data xserver-xorg-legacy
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
Upgrading:
coinor-libcoinutils3v5 liblibreofficekitgtk
coinor-libosi1v5 libmanette-0.2-0
cryptsetup libmariadb3
cryptsetup-bin libnss-myhostname
dracut-install libpam-gnome-keyring
evolution libreoffice-base-core
evolution-common libreoffice-calc
evolution-data-server libreoffice-common
evolution-data-server-common libreoffice-core
evolution-ews libreoffice-draw
evolution-ews-core libreoffice-gnome
evolution-plugin-bogofilter libreoffice-gtk3
evolution-plugin-pstimport libreoffice-help-common
evolution-plugins libreoffice-help-en-us
evolution-plugins-experimental libreoffice-impress
fonts-opensymbol libreoffice-java-common
gcr4 libreoffice-math
gir1.2-gck-2 libreoffice-style-colibre
gir1.2-gcr-4 libreoffice-style-elementary
gir1.2-lokdocview-0.1 libreoffice-uiconfig-calc
gnome-keyring libreoffice-uiconfig-common
gnome-keyring-pkcs11 libreoffice-uiconfig-draw
gnome-software libreoffice-uiconfig-impress
gnome-software-common libreoffice-uiconfig-math
gnome-software-plugin-flatpak libreoffice-uiconfig-writer
gnome-user-share libreoffice-writer
initramfs-tools-bin libreofficekit-data
libatk-wrapper-java libudev1
libatk-wrapper-java-jni libuno-cppu3t64
libcamel-1.2-64t64 libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64
libcryptsetup12 libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3t64
libebackend-1.2-11t64 libuno-sal3t64
libebook-1.2-21t64 libuno-salhelpergcc3-3t64
libebook-contacts-1.2-4t64 libunoloader-java
libecal-2.0-3 libxslt1.1
libedata-book-1.2-27t64 libyelp0
libedata-cal-2.0-2t64 mariadb-common
libedataserver-1.2-27t64 python3-scriptforge
libedataserverui-1.2-4t64 python3-uno
libedataserverui4-1.0-0t64 tzdata
libevolution tzdata-legacy
libgck-2-2 uno-libs-private
libgcr-4-4 ure
libgexiv2-2 ure-java
libgit2-1.9 yelp
libgssdp-1.6-0 yelp-xsl
liblibreoffice-java
Installing dependencies:
dbus-x11
Not upgrading:
libsystemd-shared libsystemd0 systemd-sysv
REMOVING:
blueman
bluez
colord
cryptsetup-initramfs
dbus-user-session
fbset
flash-kernel
fprintd
gdm3
gnome
gnome-bluetooth-sendto
gnome-browser-connector
gnome-color-manager
gnome-control-center
gnome-core
gnome-disk-utility
gnome-initial-setup
gnome-music
gnome-remote-desktop
gnome-session
gnome-session-bin
gnome-session-xsession
gnome-settings-daemon
gnome-shell
gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock
gnome-shell-extension-manager
gnome-shell-extension-prefs
gnome-sushi
gnome-tweaks
gparted
gstreamer1.0-packagekit
gvfs
gvfs-backends
gvfs-daemons
gvfs-fuse
initramfs-tools
initramfs-tools-core
kactivitymanagerd
kio6
kleopatra
libkf6authcore6
libkf6kiocore6
libkf6kiogui6
libkpim6akonadimime6
libopenconnect5
libpam-fprintd
libpam-systemd
libpolkit-qt6-1-1
libsane1
libtss2-esys-3.0.2-0t64
libtss2-mu-4.0.1-0t64
libtss2-rc0t64
libtss2-sys1t64
libtss2-tcti-cmd0t64
libtss2-tcti-device0t64
libtss2-tcti-libtpms0t64
libtss2-tcti-mssim0t64
libtss2-tcti-spi-helper0t64
libtss2-tcti-swtpm0t64
libtss2-tctildr0t64
linux-headers-6.15.4-mnt-reform-arm64
linux-headers-6.15.6-mnt-reform-arm64
linux-headers-mnt-reform-arm64
linux-image-6.15.3-mnt-reform-arm64
linux-image-6.15.4-mnt-reform-arm64
linux-image-6.15.6-mnt-reform-arm64
linux-image-mnt-reform-arm64
lxpolkit
malcontent
malcontent-gui
media-player-info
modem-manager-gui
modemmanager
nautilus
network-manager-applet
network-manager-gnome
network-manager-openconnect
network-manager-openconnect-gnome
nm-connection-editor
openconnect
packagekit
packagekit-tools
pcscd
php-fpm
php8.4-fpm
pkexec
plymouth
plymouth-label
plymouth-themes
polkitd
reform-desktop-full
reform-desktop-minimal
reform-qcacld2
reform-qcacld2-6.15.3-mnt-reform-arm64
reform-qcacld2-6.15.6-mnt-reform-arm64
rhythmbox
rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
rhythmbox-plugins
rtkit
sane-utils
simple-scan
software-properties-common
systemsettings
tpm-udev
udev
udisks2
upower
xdg-desktop-portal-gnome
xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-input-all
xserver-xorg-input-libinput
xserver-xorg-input-wacom
xserver-xorg-video-all
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-mach64
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
xserver-xorg-video-r128
xserver-xorg-video-radeon
Summary:
Upgrading: 93, Installing: 1, Removing: 121, Not Upgrading: 3
Download size: 0 B / 124 MB
Freed space: 723 MB
Continue? [Y/n]
Especially concerning cryptsetup-initramfs for removal. Please let me know if something odd going on, or I have to pay some caution before proceeding. Or maybe I should just go ahead? Yet, I should wait?
Thanks.
Here is the output of sudo reform-checkfrom my Pocket Reform;
shigeru@mntpr-0:~$ sudo reform-check
I: Contents of /proc/device-tree/model: MNT Pocket Reform with i.MX8MP Module
I: `uname -a` output: Linux mntpr-0 6.15.6-mnt-reform-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 6.15.6-1~exp1+reform20250719T140750Z (2025-07-19) aarch64 GNU/Linux
I: Version of linux-image-mnt-reform-arm64: 6.15.6-1~exp1+reform20250719T140750Z
I: Version of reform-tools: 1.76-1+reform20250622T103710Z+1
I: Mount source of /: /dev/reformvg/root (LVM vg 'reformvg' on LUKS device 'reform_crypt' on SSD)
I: Mount source of /boot: /dev/mmcblk2p1 (eMMC)
E: Your /etc/skel/.profile contains an outdated line that attempts to print /etc/reform-help or run reform-help.
E: Consider simply deleting that offending last line of your /etc/skel/.profile.
I: the following files differ from how they are shipped by reform-tools (ignore /var/lib/alsa/asound.state):
??5?????? /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
Hello!
Just in case, I cleaned /etc/apt/preferences.d/apt-listbugs and then I have got this with sudo apt full-upgrade;
shigeru@mntpr-0:~$ sudo apt full-upgrade
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
argyll argyll-ref
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
Upgrading:
coinor-libcoinutils3v5 libmanette-0.2-0
coinor-libosi1v5 libmariadb3
cryptsetup libnss-myhostname
cryptsetup-bin libpam-gnome-keyring
cryptsetup-initramfs libpam-systemd
dracut-install libreoffice-base-core
evolution libreoffice-calc
evolution-common libreoffice-common
evolution-data-server libreoffice-core
evolution-data-server-common libreoffice-draw
evolution-ews libreoffice-gnome
evolution-ews-core libreoffice-gtk3
evolution-plugin-bogofilter libreoffice-help-common
evolution-plugin-pstimport libreoffice-help-en-us
evolution-plugins libreoffice-impress
evolution-plugins-experimental libreoffice-java-common
fonts-opensymbol libreoffice-math
gcr4 libreoffice-style-colibre
gir1.2-gck-2 libreoffice-style-elementary
gir1.2-gcr-4 libreoffice-uiconfig-calc
gir1.2-lokdocview-0.1 libreoffice-uiconfig-common
gnome-keyring libreoffice-uiconfig-draw
gnome-keyring-pkcs11 libreoffice-uiconfig-impress
gnome-software libreoffice-uiconfig-math
gnome-software-common libreoffice-uiconfig-writer
gnome-software-plugin-flatpak libreoffice-writer
gnome-user-share libreofficekit-data
initramfs-tools libsystemd-shared
initramfs-tools-bin libsystemd0
initramfs-tools-core libudev1
libatk-wrapper-java libuno-cppu3t64
libatk-wrapper-java-jni libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64
libcamel-1.2-64t64 libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3t64
libcryptsetup12 libuno-sal3t64
libebackend-1.2-11t64 libuno-salhelpergcc3-3t64
libebook-1.2-21t64 libunoloader-java
libebook-contacts-1.2-4t64 libxslt1.1
libecal-2.0-3 libyelp0
libedata-book-1.2-27t64 mariadb-common
libedata-cal-2.0-2t64 python3-scriptforge
libedataserver-1.2-27t64 python3-uno
libedataserverui-1.2-4t64 systemd
libedataserverui4-1.0-0t64 systemd-sysv
libevolution tzdata
libgck-2-2 tzdata-legacy
libgcr-4-4 udev
libgexiv2-2 uno-libs-private
libgit2-1.9 ure
libgssdp-1.6-0 ure-java
liblibreoffice-java yelp
liblibreofficekitgtk yelp-xsl
Summary:
Upgrading: 102, Installing: 0, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 0
Download size: 0 B / 132 MB
Space needed: 1,328 kB / 736 GB available
Continue? [Y/n]
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
critical bugs of systemd (257.7-1 → 258~rc2-2) <Outstanding>
b1 - #1110980 - /var/lock/ is the standard interface for serial devices locks
Summary:
systemd(1 bug)
Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...]
Should I wait a few days?
josch
August 13, 2025, 6:40pm
3
Please do not proceed with the upgrade. Doing so would remove your desktop installation.
I will have more time later to give you a more detailed reply.
I can give you a very detailed analysis if you share the list of installed packages. Note that this might include all packages and maybe you are not comfortable with sharing the list (which is okay) if you don’t want to share the list publicly but are fine with sharing it to me personally you can also send me an email to josch@debian.org The interesting bits are the output of this command (it will list all the packages you have installed and their version):
dpkg-query --showformat '${binary:Package}=${Version}\n' --show
Hello @josch ,
I am holding from upgrade as advised.
So far I am not doing anything that calls for secrecy regarding installed packages. Inclusion of TOR may be untypical.
shigeru@mntpr-0:~$ dpkg-query --showformat '${binary:Package}=${Version}\n' --show
7zip=25.01+dfsg-1
accountsservice=23.13.9-7
acl=2.3.2-2+b1
adduser=3.152
adwaita-icon-theme=48.1-1
aglfn=1.7+git20191031.4036a9c-2
akonadi-mime-data=4:24.12.3-1
alacarte=3.56.0-2
alien=8.95.8
alsa-ucm-conf=1.2.14-1
alsa-utils=1.2.14-1
antiword=0.37-17
apache2=2.4.65-3
apache2-bin=2.4.65-3
apache2-data=2.4.65-3
apache2-doc=2.4.65-3
apache2-suexec-pristine=2.4.65-3
apache2-utils=2.4.65-3
apparmor=4.1.0-1
appstream=1.0.5-1
appstream-util=0.8.3-1
apt=3.1.4
apt-file=3.3
apt-listbugs=0.1.47
apt-transport-https=3.1.4
apt-transport-tor=0.5
apt-utils=3.1.4
argyll=3.3.0+repack-1
argyll-ref=3.3.0+repack-1
arj=3.10.22-28
assistant-qt6=6.8.2-5
at-spi2-common=2.57.1-1
at-spi2-core=2.57.1-1
autoconf=2.72-3.1
automake=1:1.17-4
autopoint=0.23.1-2
autotools-dev=20240727.1
avahi-daemon=0.8-16
avahi-utils=0.8-16
avr-libc=1:2.2.1-1
baobab=48.0-2+b1
base-files=14
base-passwd=3.6.7
basez=1.6.2-3+b1
bash=5.2.37-2+b5
bash-completion=1:2.16.0-7
bc=1.07.1-4+b1
bind9-dnsutils=1:9.20.11-4
bind9-host=1:9.20.11-4
bind9-libs:arm64=1:9.20.11-4
binutils=2.45-3
binutils-aarch64-linux-gnu=2.45-3
binutils-arm-none-eabi=2.44-3+23+b2
binutils-avr=2.43.50.20250108-1
binutils-common:arm64=2.45-3
binutils-gold=2.44-2
binutils-gold-aarch64-linux-gnu=2.44-2
bison=2:3.8.2+dfsg-1+b2
blueman=2.4.4-1
bluez=5.82-1.1
bluez-obexd=5.82-1.1
bmap-tools=3.9.0-3
bmaptool=3.9.0-3
bogofilter=1.2.5-1+b4
bogofilter-bdb=1.2.5-1+b4
bogofilter-common=1.2.5-1+b4
bolt=0.9.8-1+b1
brasero-common=3.12.3-4
breeze-icon-theme=4:5.116.0-1
brightness-udev=0.5.1-3.1
brightnessctl=0.5.1-3.1+b1
brltty=6.7-3.1
bsdextrautils=2.41.1-1
bsdmainutils=12.1.8
bsdutils=1:2.41.1-1
btop=1.3.2-0.1
bubblewrap=0.11.0-2
build-essential=12.12
busybox=1:1.37.0-6+b3
bzip2=1.0.8-6
bzip2-doc=1.0.8-6
ca-certificates=20250419
ca-certificates-java=20240118
capnproto=1.1.0-2
cargo=1.86.0+dfsg1-1
cdrdao=1:1.2.5-2
chromium=139.0.7258.66-1
chromium-common=139.0.7258.66-1
chromium-driver=139.0.7258.66-1
chromium-sandbox=139.0.7258.66-1
chromium-shell=139.0.7258.66-1
clang=1:19.0-63
clang-16=1:16.0.6-27+b1
clang-17=1:17.0.6-22+b2
clang-18=1:18.1.8-18+b1
clang-19=1:19.1.7-3+b1
clang-tools-19=1:19.1.7-3+b1
cmake=3.31.6-2
cmake-data=3.31.6-2
coinor-libcbc3.1:arm64=2.10.12+ds-1
coinor-libcgl1:arm64=0.60.9+ds-1
coinor-libclp1:arm64=1.17.10+ds-1
coinor-libcoinmp0:arm64=1.8.4+dfsg-2
coinor-libcoinutils3v5:arm64=2.11.11+ds-5
coinor-libosi1v5:arm64=0.108.10+ds-2
colord=1.4.7-3
colord-data=1.4.7-3
comerr-dev:arm64=2.1-1.47.2-3+b3
console-braille=1.11
console-data=2:1.12-9
console-setup=1.240
console-setup-linux=1.240
coreutils=9.7-3
cpio=2.15+dfsg-2
cpp=4:14.2.0-1
cpp-13=13.4.0-1
cpp-13-aarch64-linux-gnu=13.4.0-1
cpp-14=14.3.0-5
cpp-14-aarch64-linux-gnu=14.3.0-5
cpp-14-for-host:arm64=14.3.0-5
cpp-aarch64-linux-gnu=4:14.2.0-1
cppzmq-dev:arm64=4.10.0-1+b2
cracklib-runtime=2.9.6-5.2+b1
cron=3.0pl1-197
cron-daemon-common=3.0pl1-197
cryptsetup=2:2.8.0-2
cryptsetup-bin=2:2.8.0-2
cryptsetup-initramfs=2:2.8.0-2
cups=2.4.10-3
cups-browsed=1.28.17-6
cups-bsd=2.4.10-3
cups-client=2.4.10-3
cups-common=2.4.10-3
cups-core-drivers=2.4.10-3
cups-daemon=2.4.10-3
cups-filters=1.28.17-6
cups-filters-core-drivers=1.28.17-6
cups-ipp-utils=2.4.10-3
cups-pk-helper=0.2.6-2.1
cups-ppdc=2.4.10-3
cups-server-common=2.4.10-3
curl=8.15.0-1
dash=0.5.12-12
db5.3-util=5.3.28+dfsg2-9
dbus=1.16.2-2
dbus-bin=1.16.2-2
dbus-daemon=1.16.2-2
dbus-session-bus-common=1.16.2-2
dbus-system-bus-common=1.16.2-2
dbus-user-session=1.16.2-2
dconf-cli=0.40.0-5
dconf-gsettings-backend:arm64=0.40.0-5
dconf-service=0.40.0-5
deb.torproject.org-keyring=2025.08.08
debconf=1.5.91
debhelper=13.25
debian-archive-keyring=2025.1
debian-kernel-handbook=1.0.21
debian-keyring=2025.07.26
debianutils=5.23.2
debugedit=1:5.1-2
default-jre=2:1.21-76
default-jre-headless=2:1.21-76
designer-qt6=6.8.2-5
desktop-base=14.0.0~pre1
desktop-file-utils=0.28-1
devio=1.2-3+b1
dh-autoreconf=20
dh-make=2.202503
dh-strip-nondeterminism=1.14.1-2
dhcpcd-base=1:10.2.4-3
dialog=1.3-20250116-1
dictionaries-common=1.30.10
diffstat=1.67-1
diffutils=1:3.10-4
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libgraphite2-3:arm64=1.3.14-2+b1
libgrilo-0.3-0:arm64=0.3.19-1
libgs-common=10.05.1~dfsg-1
libgs10:arm64=10.05.1~dfsg-1
libgs10-common=10.05.1~dfsg-1
libgsf-1-114:arm64=1.14.53-1
libgsf-1-common=1.14.53-1
libgsf-bin=1.14.53-1
libgsl28:arm64=2.8+dfsg-5
libgslcblas0:arm64=2.8+dfsg-5
libgsm1:arm64=1.0.22-1+b2
libgsound0t64:arm64=1.0.3-3.2+b4
libgspell-1-3:arm64=1.14.0-2+b1
libgspell-1-common=1.14.0-2
libgssapi-krb5-2:arm64=1.21.3-5
libgssdp-1.6-0:arm64=1.6.3-2
libgssrpc4t64:arm64=1.21.3-5
libgstreamer-gl1.0-0:arm64=1.26.5-2
libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0:arm64=1.26.5-2
libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:arm64=1.26.5-2
libgstreamer1.0-0:arm64=1.26.5-2
libgtk-3-0t64:arm64=3.24.50-1
libgtk-3-common=3.24.50-1
libgtk-4-1:arm64=4.18.6+ds-2
libgtk-4-common=4.18.6+ds-2
libgtk-4-media-gstreamer=4.18.6+ds-2
libgtk-layer-shell0=0.9.0-2
libgtk-vnc-2.0-0:arm64=1.5.0-1
libgtk2.0-0t64:arm64=2.24.33-6
libgtk2.0-common=2.24.33-6
libgtkmm-3.0-1t64:arm64=3.24.10-1
libgtkmm-4.0-0:arm64=4.18.0-1
libgtksourceview-4-0:arm64=4.8.4-6
libgtksourceview-4-common=4.8.4-6
libgtksourceview-5-0:arm64=5.16.0-1
libgtksourceview-5-common=5.16.0-1
libgtkspell3-3-0:arm64=3.0.10-2
(The list was too big and caused error so I am splitting into multiple posts.)
What I find odd in this list is the presence of X11, I thought Pocket Reform is on Wayland.
Thank you for your time and attention for this matter.
I pasted the link instead as below.
josch
August 13, 2025, 7:21pm
6
you can also use a pastebin service. Here is mine: https://mister-muffin.de/post.htm
Hello @josch ,
Thank you for the tip. Here is the URL…https://mister-muffin.de/p/8moE.txt
Hello,
I am not sure what is going on but just did sudo apt update and it says that I have 250 packages for upgrade now. Is something massively going on with the packages for Debian 13?
Was curious to see what they are without actually upgrading and here is the listed:
shigeru@mntpr-0:~$ sudo apt full-upgrade
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
argyll argyll-ref
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
Upgrading:
apache2 libgnome-desktop-4-2t64
apache2-bin libgnome-rr-4-2t64
apache2-suexec-pristine libgoa-1.0-0b
apache2-utils libgoa-backend-1.0-2
appstream libgpod-common
bind9-dnsutils libgpod4t64
bind9-host libgsf-1-114
bind9-libs libgsf-bin
clang-19 libgssdp-1.6-0
clang-tools-19 libgtk-layer-shell0
coinor-libcoinutils3v5 libgtksourceview-5-0
coinor-libosi1v5 libgupnp-1.6-0
cryptsetup libgupnp-av-1.0-3
cryptsetup-bin libgupnp-dlna-2.0-4
cryptsetup-initramfs libgweather-4-0t64
dracut-install libkf6doctools6
evince libkpathsea6
evince-common liblangtag1
evolution liblibreoffice-java
evolution-common liblibreofficekitgtk
evolution-data-server libllvm19
evolution-data-server-common libmanette-0.2-0
evolution-ews libmariadb3
evolution-ews-core libneon27t64
evolution-plugin-bogofilter libnetpbm11t64
evolution-plugin-pstimport libnfsidmap1
evolution-plugins libnghttp2-14
evolution-plugins-experimental libnma-common
ffmpeg libnma-gtk4-0
flatpak libnma0
fonts-opensymbol libnss-myhostname
gcr4 libodfgen-0.1-1
gdm3 libopenal-data
gettext libopenal1
gettext-base libostree-1-1
gir1.2-evince-3.0 libpam-gnome-keyring
gir1.2-gck-2 libpam-systemd
gir1.2-gcr-4 libpostproc58
gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 libppsdocument-4.0-5
gir1.2-gdm-1.0 libppsview-4.0-4
gir1.2-gnomebg-4.0 libpq5
gir1.2-gnomedesktop-4.0 libraptor2-0
gir1.2-goa-1.0 libreoffice-base-core
gir1.2-gtklayershell-0.1 libreoffice-calc
gir1.2-gweather-4.0 libreoffice-common
gir1.2-lokdocview-0.1 libreoffice-core
gir1.2-nma4-1.0 libreoffice-draw
gir1.2-rest-1.0 libreoffice-gnome
gir1.2-rsvg-2.0 libreoffice-gtk3
gir1.2-shumate-1.0 libreoffice-help-common
gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 libreoffice-help-en-us
gir1.2-totem-1.0 libreoffice-impress
gnome-desktop3-data libreoffice-java-common
gnome-keyring libreoffice-math
gnome-keyring-pkcs11 libreoffice-style-colibre
gnome-maps libreoffice-style-elementary
gnome-online-accounts libreoffice-uiconfig-calc
gnome-software libreoffice-uiconfig-common
gnome-software-common libreoffice-uiconfig-draw
gnome-software-plugin-flatpak libreoffice-uiconfig-impress
gnome-user-share libreoffice-uiconfig-math
gstreamer1.0-gtk3 libreoffice-uiconfig-writer
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good libreoffice-writer
initramfs-tools libreofficekit-data
initramfs-tools-bin librest-1.0-0
initramfs-tools-core librsvg2-2
libabw-0.1-1 librsvg2-common
libappstream5 libshumate-1.0-1
libarchive13t64 libshumate-common
libasprintf-dev libstoken1t64
libasprintf0v5 libswresample5
libatasmart4 libswscale8
libatk-wrapper-java libsynctex2
libatk-wrapper-java-jni libsystemd-shared
libavcodec61 libsystemd0
libavdevice61 libtelepathy-logger3
libavfilter10 libtotem0
libavformat61 libudev1
libavutil59 libuno-cppu3t64
libblockdev-crypto3 libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64
libblockdev-fs3 libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3t64
libblockdev-loop3 libuno-sal3t64
libblockdev-mdraid3 libuno-salhelpergcc3-3t64
libblockdev-nvme3 libunoloader-java
libblockdev-part3 libvisio-0.1-1
libblockdev-swap3 libwf-config1
libblockdev-utils3 libxml++2.6-2v5
libblockdev3 libxml-libxml-perl
libbluray2 libxml2-dev
libcamel-1.2-64t64 libxslt1.1
libclang-common-19-dev libxvidcore4
libclang-cpp19 libyelp0
libclang-rt-19-dev libzbar0t64
libclang1-19 lld-19
libcmis-0.6-6t64 llvm-19
libcryptsetup12 llvm-19-dev
libe-book-0.1-1 llvm-19-linker-tools
libebackend-1.2-11t64 llvm-19-runtime
libebook-1.2-21t64 llvm-19-tools
libebook-contacts-1.2-4t64 mariadb-common
libecal-2.0-3 netpbm
libedata-book-1.2-27t64 nginx
libedata-cal-2.0-2t64 papers
libedataserver-1.2-27t64 papers-common
libedataserverui-1.2-4t64 python3-beaker
libedataserverui4-1.0-0t64 python3-blinker
libetonyek-0.1-1 python3-scriptforge
libevdocument3-4t64 python3-uno
libevolution shared-mime-info
libevview3-3t64 systemd
libflashrom1 systemd-sysv
libflatpak0 totem
libfluidsynth3 totem-common
libgck-2-2 totem-plugins
libgcr-4-4 totem-video-thumbnailer
libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0 tzdata
libgdk-pixbuf2.0-bin tzdata-legacy
libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common udev
libgdm1 uno-libs-private
libgettextpo-dev ure
libgettextpo0 ure-java
libgexiv2-2 yelp
libgit2-1.9 yelp-xsl
libgnome-bg-4-2t64 zenity
libgnome-desktop-3-20t64 zenity-common
Installing dependencies:
liblzma-dev libsdl3-0 libxml2-16
Suggested packages:
liblzma-doc liburing2
REMOVING:
reform-firedecor
Summary:
Upgrading: 250, Installing: 3, Removing: 1, Not Upgrading: 0
Download size: 265 MB / 297 MB
Space needed: 6,386 kB / 735 GB available
Continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.
Just wondering…
josch
August 16, 2025, 7:02am
9
The MNT system images use Debian unstable and Debian 13 was just released, so you are now using the development repository for Debian 14 which will be called Forky. Since Debian 13 was released a few days ago, a lot of people are eager to upload new versions of their packages as they have had to wait a long time (several month long freeze) without being able to upload anything. This means that shortly after a release there is usually a very large amount of activity in Debian unstable.
Sorry for coming back to you only now. I left for holidays with family yesterday and thus I did/do not have very much time.
Either you posted the wrong list or there is a problem with your installation. Can you give me the output of this:
dpkg-query --showformat '${binary:Package}=${Version}\n' --show firebird4.0-common kwayland-integration libkf5archive5
And then of this:
dpkg-query --showformat '${binary:Package}=${Version}\n' --show firebird4.0-common-doc libkf5waylandclient5 libkf5windowsystem5 libkf5archive-data
And, if you have time, maybe even the output of this:
sudo apt install --fix-broken --simulate
Thanks!
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Hello @josch ,
I see, would the MNT system be moving into Forky from Trixie? Thank you for the explanation. Make a good sense.
Here was the output for the first one;
shigeru@mntpr-0:~$ dpkg-query --showformat '${binary:Package}=${Version}\n' --show firebird4.0-common kwayland-integration libkf5archive5
firebird4.0-common=4.0.5.3140.ds6-17
kwayland-integration:arm64=6.2.5-1
libkf5archive5:arm64=5.115.0-4
The second;
shigeru@mntpr-0:~$ dpkg-query --showformat '${binary:Package}=${Version}\n' --show firebird4.0-common-doc libkf5waylandclient5 libkf5windowsystem5 libkf5archive-data
firebird4.0-common-doc=
libkf5archive-data=
libkf5waylandclient5=
libkf5windowsystem5=
And the last one;
shigeru@mntpr-0:~$ sudo apt install --fix-broken --simulate
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
argyll argyll-ref
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 0, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 322
Just ran the sudo apt update beforehand so the number increased from 250 to 322.
I appreciate very much you spending a lot of time for my cases.
josch
August 16, 2025, 8:49am
11
You are using Debian unstable, so you were never either on Trixie nor Forky. Debian unstable is the development release in Debian and packages which pass certain criteria transition to “testing” and that will become the next stable release. With “unstable” you always use the packages which are “to be tested” before they potentially make it into the next release.
That is normal. Everybody is uploading their things right now. Still, something is odd for you. Can you give me the output of this please:
apt-cache show libkf5archive5:arm64=5.115.0-4
Hello @josch ,
I got it, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources reads Suites: unstable. But, at some point I need to change /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tor.sources to read Suites: forky from Suites: trixi, then.
Here was the result of the mentioned command;
shigeru@mntpr-0:~$ apt-cache show libkf5archive5:arm64=5.115.0-4
Package: libkf5archive5
Status: deinstall ok config-files
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Installed-Size: 362
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: arm64
Multi-Arch: same
Source: karchive
Version: 5.115.0-4
Config-Version: 5.115.0-4
Depends: libkf5archive-data (= 5.115.0-4), libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.38), liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20120614), libqt5core5t64 (>= 5.15.2~), libstdc++6 (>= 5), libzstd1 (>= 1.5.5), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
Breaks: kdoctools5 (<< 5.54), kimageformat-plugins (<< 5.54), kio (<< 5.54), kpackagetool5 (<< 5.54), libkf5doctools5 (<< 5.54), libkf5emoticons5 (<< 5.54), libkf5filemetadata-bin (<< 5.54), libkf5iconthemes5 (<< 5.54), libkf5khtml-bin (<< 5.54), libkf5khtml5 (<< 5.54), libkf5newstuff5 (<< 5.54), libkf5newstuffcore5 (<< 5.54), libkf5package5 (<< 5.54), libkf5plasma5 (<< 5.54), libkf5texteditor5 (<< 5.54)
Description: Qt 5 addon providing access to numerous types of archives
KArchive provides classes for easy reading, creation and manipulation of
"archive" formats like ZIP and TAR.
.
It also provides transparent compression and decompression of data, like the
GZip format, via a subclass of QIODevice.
.
This package is part of KDE Frameworks 5.
Description-md5:
Homepage: https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/karchive
I installed Qt when I was compiling bitcoin-qt.
Thank you.
josch
August 17, 2025, 11:46am
13
There are still things about your setup that i do not understand but the next thing i would try if i were you would be to remove the packages you installed from the tor repository, then upgrade and then install them again. It is possible that the tor packages are not (yet) compatible with what is currently in unstable.
josch
August 17, 2025, 11:17pm
14
ooooh i found a problem with my instructions! If you don’t mind, could you upload another file containing the output of the following command please:
dpkg-query --showformat '${db:Status-Status} ${binary:Package}=${Version}\n' --show | sed -ne 's/^installed //p'
Thank you!
Hello @josch ,
So the previous list generated all the packages that were already removed? Just trying to understand the difference.
Here is the output of the command: https://mister-muffin.de/p/Arjx.txt
Thank you very much for your kind attention to this matter.
P.S. I have not done the TOR uninstall and update, yet.
josch
August 18, 2025, 4:46am
16
Running dpkg-query --show gives you all packages dpkg knows about which includes packages that were already removed. Including ${db:Status-Status in the format makes dpkg output the current state of the package and then we can filter the output to only include packages with state “installed” used sed.
This is a bug in the man page and --help output of the debootsnap script which suggests to run the command I told you to run earlier: debootsnap(1) — devscripts — Debian trixie — Debian Manpages
I’ve now directed some stern criticism regarding this sloppiness to the author of debootsnap (spoiler: it’s me) and the issue will be fixed once I found a suitable replacement. I contacted the dpkg developers and some other folks about it already. So it’s nice that we found a bug and can fix it too.
That is good because this made me find and fix yet another bug: debootsnap: fix --ignore-notfound option (!546) · Merge requests · Debian / devscripts · GitLab
Hello @josch ,
I am glad that my still pretty much ignorant fiddlings on Debian and facing issues here and there helped identifying, fixing and improving things at large.
By the way, do you still suggest me to do TOR uninstall and update steps, or just to wait for more days?
Thank you.
murph
August 18, 2025, 4:12pm
18
I’m glad I caught this thread. I tend to be a compulsive upgrader, but I’ve held off because of this thread.
When I check, there are is a lot, but the only thing being removed doesn’t seem too critical. (There is obviously a lot more upgraded)
libatspi2.0-0t64 libnvme1t64 wayland-protocols
libavcodec61 libopenal-data wireplumber
libavdevice61 libopenal1 zenity
libavfilter10 libopenfec1 zenity-common
libavformat61 libopenjp2-7
libavutil59 libpam-gnome-keyring
Installing dependencies:
libblockdev-smart3 libhdf4-0 liblzma-dev libxml2-16 systemd-oomd zlib1g-dev
Suggested packages:
libhdf4-dev hdf4-tools liblzma-doc
REMOVING:
reform-firedecor
Summary:
Upgrading: 313, Installing: 6, Removing: 1, Not Upgrading: 0
Download size: 129 MB / 299 MB
Space needed: 13.6 MB / 1,826 GB available
So, is that suggestion to not upgrade universal? firedecor seems ok to remove, but that’s a lot to upgrade.
I’ll hold off until @josch gives the signal that it’s OK.
josch
August 18, 2025, 11:32pm
19
I now managed to install exactly the packages you have installed minus those that are not from Debian (like those from tor). With that setup, the upgrade worked flawlessly without removing more than reform-firedecor which was also noticed by @murph .
This points to your extra packages (like tor) being responsible. To ultimately figure out why so many packages got removed, you can run apt with extra debug options like so (and post the output without actually performing the upgrade and removal):
sudo apt full-upgrade -oDebug::pkgProblemResolver=true -oDebug::pkgDepCache::Marker=1 -oDebug::pkgDepCache::AutoInstall=1
No. The upgrading part is fine. In case of @shiguru , 121 packages were about to be removed. That is an unusually high number for an upgrade. Looking at the list of packages that were queued for removal reveals that this “upgrade” was about to remove half of the desktop environment. Thus, something is wrong.
In your case @murph , only reform-firedecor is to be removed and that is fine unless you are a user of wayfire. So in your case, only the usual caution against upgrading applies: using Debian unstable means that upgrades can easily break your setup. Treat with care.
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murph
August 18, 2025, 11:39pm
20
Thanks. I am a wayfire user, but I could improvise in sway if this update breaks it.
